Why is AMD the Budget Option for Gamers?

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palindari
palindari - Hour ago
Try making a balls out Intel v. AMD - then compare bang-for-buck comparisons... that is if you haven't already...
Felipe Andrade
Felipe Andrade - 4 hours ago
Other price points would be great. Another good one would be for other uses too, like content creators or science/engineering stuff. There is a lot of IT/engineering students and new content creators trying to maximize bang for a buck but they don't have any idea.
Cam P
Cam P - 5 hours ago
Should've checked professional performance as well
NvrUseYur RealName
NvrUseYur RealName - 5 hours ago
...So confused. He said the Intel Core i5-8400(6 cores @ 2.8GHz) is "more powerful" than the AMD Ryzen 5 2600(6 cores @ 3.4GHz).... HOW?
I'm admittedly way behind on processors(& a lot of PC hardware these days), but that just seems like a REALLY big difference to me & in the opposite direction from his statement. ...So, yea, what on Earth am I missing? Someone explain it to me please & thank you so much. :/
Kashif Riley
Kashif Riley - 8 hours ago
I'm actually getting an AMD Ryzen 2950X for my new build and the value was so good it allowed me to get more NvMe SSD and more memory
Planet Random
Planet Random - 8 hours ago
I Love how Linus was bitching with the hp 360 and saying how bad it was but he’s using it in this video, and a few months back saying how bad apple was, but Tweets from an iPhone. Linus, you’re full of shit and everyone knows it
Gupinder Momi
Gupinder Momi - 10 hours ago
What about quality over time? Which rig would last longer?
DennisTheGamer
DennisTheGamer - 11 hours ago
I was close to buying a i5 8400, but rather switched to a Ryzen 5 2600X, because of better benchmarks and I could get at a discount.
joseph bras
joseph bras - 19 hours ago
could it be possible you sugest me a configuration for at maximum 1000 dolars pc tower. games are not important, but the quality of the material are. it should run at least for 5 years. its purpuse is downloading media and watching video at in 4 k at 1gps speed. i think it shoul have a dedicate video card for not put that efort in the cpu. not overclocked, the motherbord sould have the latest wifi conection avaible.
Birdy Reene
Birdy Reene - 21 hour ago
I love these videos and it was neat seeing what they put together with a 750 dollar budget, but im curious fps benchmark wise how well both these builds in this video would do on poorly optimized games on a populated Rust server or Conan exiles server. I can torture my moldy potato of a pc all day long with csgo at around 55 fps on medium settings. but if I fire up rust, even if I run it on potato setting. with all its other optional settings as low as they can possibly go, I get 12 to 22 fps tops X_x and 30 in conan exiles. So im really curious how well either of these budget builds they showed in this video would run rust at low and medium settings.
Gullraiz Nadeem
Gullraiz Nadeem - 21 hour ago
Do one for content creation PCs
Wesley Beason
Wesley Beason - Day ago
Do more videos like this, really gave true data for when your buying computer parts online. Thanks for the video.
Sam C
Sam C - Day ago
really enjoyed this type of video. More chill, good information and well presented without being over the top.
Maaxiim
Maaxiim - Day ago
My fx 4300 still runs, but I'll upgrade to a 2600 or 3600 depending on their release
Marsted Roashmallows
I'd like to see this comparison again at $500 with the amd system using a amd gpu. I think that'd be somewhat fair because amd doesn't have competition for the rtx 20 series cards yet.
connostyper
connostyper - Day ago
From me the situation is different. You can built an AMD system with high end motherboard that is cheper than Intel. Then cheap out on cpu for example 2600. AMD motherboards will support 3rd generation ryzen. You can upgrade later if needed.
Bud King
Bud King - Day ago
Anthony, with the money you save buying AMD you can put towards fixing your hair.
Crimson Salmadin
Crimson Salmadin - Day ago
The one thing that AMD has over Intel is the upgradeability of the CPU on current motherboards.
Valentin Dimitrov
Valentin Dimitrov - 2 days ago
These types of videos are pure gold Linus.. oh and Anthony's build destroyed, I guess he is much more qualified :D
Derek Stinson
Derek Stinson - 2 days ago
Anthony should have got a second try too.
JD Gaming
JD Gaming - 2 days ago
upgrade the 2600 to a 1700 since you have 15$ more, also currently the 8400 is $199.99
Jasonoid
Jasonoid - 2 days ago
Hoping to see what Ryzen 3000 does to the CPU market. Bring more competition from Intel? Let's hope so!
The Automaticist
The Automaticist - 2 days ago
Can you redo this at around $1300 USD (about the value of the computer I built)
Deyvson Moutinho Caliman
I don't know how CPU performance are these days, but in Nvidia against AMD when they sell similar performance graphic boards, the AMD ones already come overclocked, they spend more energy and have higher temperatures. So if you overclock Nvidia you can go further, put more load into it, because it's harder to make it overheat. I thought it would be the same with CPUs, but it seems that AMD is really up to par with Intel nowadays, although I would like to see CPU temperatures in those tests, those temperatures should be the same because if Intel had a lower temperature it could be overclocked more.
megadeth22885
megadeth22885 - 2 days ago
wtf is the "amd build" using a nvidia GPU?.. so this is just a CPU comparison then?
Chivokroy
Chivokroy - 2 days ago
Science done right: "It certainly wasn't what we were expecting, but we're going with it."
Jigsaw
Jigsaw - 2 days ago
Send me a gaming laptop and I'll draw an animal for you Linus.
DJJEZ1983
DJJEZ1983 - 2 days ago
Amd is for broke peasants. Change my mind
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Does he change the video Title !! weird
Nick Schafer
Nick Schafer - 3 days ago
I feel they cheated on AMD here. They adjusted the intel specs for something that can't be overclocked(While improving specs and saving cost) when in the first place of the video that one of their requirements was it HAD to be an overclockable CPU.
Suleman Zaidi
Suleman Zaidi - 3 days ago
isn't the i3-8350k better than the i5-8400? Much higher base clock, even when the 8400 goes into turbo and plus its cheaper
UgLiest_handsome
UgLiest_handsome - 3 days ago
$1250 budget plz
Nathan Gamble
Nathan Gamble - 3 days ago
Well, they've got to do the same with AMD vs nVidia now.
haloguy32375
haloguy32375 - 3 days ago
the real question is, why cant linus hold expensive equipment without dropping it
Robert Therrien
Robert Therrien - 3 days ago
When GPU are $1000. Then AMD processors are the best.
Paul Gariepy
Paul Gariepy - 3 days ago
Linus you should do a AMD vs Intel reliability / compatibility shootout. One of the reasons I left AMD back in the Athlon days was the chipsets were buggy and the USB ports always seemed to have issues vs the Intel platforms. AKA which platform is more stable especially when we talk about AMD winning with overclocking.
Galaxy Eyes Photon Dragon
+Ducky The Duck No way that will be true. Their 7 nm is kind of a marketing lie, only some parts of the CPU are 7nm and it doesn't affect the transistor density.
Ducky The Duck
Ducky The Duck - 23 hours ago
As a Ryzen 5 1500x owner that has a hard cap on overclocking at 4.2ghz, the 2000 series expandded this i can say that even the stock cooler ( the wraith spire) can get you to 4.2 but it will be hot, 85c hot and ryzen overclocking is stable at 75c and i get crashes from time to time, USB support is stellar, no issues with it at all, i honestly had more issues with intel based systems as with usb stability than this If you want to move to amd wait for ZEN 2/3000 series, they will ( according to the leaks and press shows from amd) have 20% more performance per core than any intel architecture so it will be an interesting thing to see if it actually is true
Fredrik Lindlöf
Fredrik Lindlöf - 3 days ago
Something not mentioned in the video is value over time, I.E upgradability. Would love to see a video where they make approximations of each parts viable lifetime, and show plausible current and future upgradepaths and what the value preposition becomes then.
fmalone03
fmalone03 - 3 days ago
AMD also has a upgrade path. Intel regularly dumps support for current chipsets when they release a new CPU even though the performance gains are minimal and after a couple of years if you are looking for upgrades you will more than likely have to change your motherboard and CPU at once on Intel.
Anders Larsson
Anders Larsson - 3 days ago
If it’s AMD vs Intel you have to go with an AMD GPU ;)
Pure Gameplay
Pure Gameplay - 3 days ago
LOL american prices are seriously FUCKED. In Canada, I3 8350k is $320+ and the ryzen 5 2600 is $230, Come to Canada and you'll definitely see the price to performance that AMD has over swagtel. Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x shit all over the I3 and cost 30% less, its literally a no brainer. The real title of this video should be, "Why does everyone like to be shit on by Intel"
Pure Gameplay
Pure Gameplay - 3 days ago
Its not the budget option, is the logical option. Thats like saying every bag other than gucci is just a budget bag, when in reality some shit is just overpriced swag trash.
DAVID L CARTER
DAVID L CARTER - 3 days ago
I knew big man would win this challenge,,, can you guys do the same thing with a 5 gpu mining rig?? THAT WOULD BE COOL
DAVID L CARTER
DAVID L CARTER - 3 days ago
I have no reason to change and I am sticking with AMD
DAVID L CARTER
DAVID L CARTER - 3 days ago
llinus AMD is for smart people like me that want the best for my money ,,I build miners and I am glad I bought the right RX590 NITRO cards for my miners and they work great and I see Nvidia trying to keep up with the 200 to 250 usd cards and I am glad to see the MH/z clock listings recently
Manuel Jurado
Manuel Jurado - 3 days ago
One of your best video ever!: Great content, fantastic presentation and awesome execution.
Please do this comparison for at least a couple of budgets more.
Fran
Fran - 3 days ago
6:32
You are using liquid cooling, which wasn't in none of the lists 🤦
AndreasRiborg
AndreasRiborg - 2 days ago
I know right, lets see the overclocking in the actual budget case
Ashley Perkins
Ashley Perkins - 3 days ago
so he cheated by putting a non amd graphics card in the amd build....
SanityDragon
SanityDragon - 3 days ago
Productivity would also be interesting as i'm guessing the intel chip would win in premiere (quicksync) but the Ryzen chip would smash rendering? Nice video; worth a part 2 for productivity and then an all round balance?
Elbert Joseph Layco
Elbert Joseph Layco - 4 days ago
For $750, i see there's a little bit of value difference. Will that increase/decrease based on the cost range like at $500 or even $1000?
furyp100
furyp100 - 4 days ago
I think it would be more reasonable to just compare motherboard and cpu prices since cases, psu, ram, and gpu doesn't matter for amd vs intel comparisons
Сука Блять
Сука Блять - 4 days ago
So basically AMD is better no matter how you try to spin it. Just Linus is an intel-shill and can’t bring himself to outright admit that fact.
roddybrod
roddybrod - 4 days ago
Really loved this video! I've got plenty of friends making commitments to PC Gaming and this is a great introduction to budgeting their systems out! I really would have wished that you mentioned something about an i7's value proposition for this budget as I feel like many people automatically jump to them.
Matthew Langley
Matthew Langley - 4 days ago
Honestly AMD (right now the 2700x) at the just below top end gaming machine is the top pick IMHO. Especially if you're looking at 1440p or greater where the advantages of a 9700k or 9900k diminish greatly do to being GPU bound, and what does that cheaper price on the AMD get you? A serious upgrade to GPU. For example the 2700x is regularly $310, but it also goes down quite a bit by $10-$20 less, even more commonly you can get some killer combo deals on newegg with a great MB or RAM and get anywhere from $20-$50 off. Likewise you get a pretty good stock cooler with it, often compared to say a $40-$50 aftermarket cooler. The 9700k is $420 and no cooler. all this plus cheaper motherboard options (that you can also get at some great deals or combo deals) typically means you can net about $150-$200 savings going 2700x and the 9700k is only a minimal amount better on CPU bound games, usually at 1080p, and usually no faster at 1440p or greater. Likewise multicore is a toss up between the two, 16 vs 8 threads in the AMD camp nets you some wins in some cases, while the 9700k with equal cores and higher clockspeeds nets you in some others. That $200 or so dollars will add a massive amount to your gaming results if applied either towards a GPU, a good monitor, or honestly to something else. Again 1440p you lost a couple FPS (and maybe none at all) but getter more FPS in GPU, higher refresh or better image quality in a better monitor, or maybe something like a better keyboard, mouse, headset, better chair, desk, faster drives, more high speed drives so you install less etc.

Honestly unless you are either beyond having a budget at all (even if you have deep pockets) or you just need to get to that 240 fps in 1080p games (say an aspiring FPS pro or something) it just doesn't make sense, the price difference for the limited gain is just too much. There are countless ways to improve your gaming experience even if you've been dropping it like it's hot on components. Even then you can take that extra money that won't really benefit you much and spend them on games or software if nothing else. My wife and I got a set of 1080 tis for our gaming rigs last year (and for context I'm running a caselabs case so don't mind spending extra money for the quality)... this year when we upgrade CPU we could have dropped more on a 9700k or even a 9900k, but I just couldn't justify it. It really just doesn't add up unless we basically had an almost unlimited budget for our rigs and all of our gaming equipment and games.

Just my opinion though.
Gerrard Harvey
Gerrard Harvey - 4 days ago
+Linus random question: why do I get the Video_scheduler_internal_error BSOD and how do I fix it? After all I tried it appears it is related to graphics card driver or hardware but I'm not sure which. I don't have a second gfx card to test. I do know that with the gfx driver completely removed using DDU, it doesn't crash. But as soon as Windows update auto installs the driver, it crashes.
Nazar Andriyuk
Nazar Andriyuk - 4 days ago
1500 price point
EagleClaw1842
EagleClaw1842 - 4 days ago
i feel bad for that chair
Cbeddoe19
Cbeddoe19 - 4 days ago
Because its way cheaper and you can upgrade old motherboards with new processors.
Or you can buy older products for dirt friggin cheap. That little performance penalty isn't worth 2-3x the money for most people
Bryce Stewart
Bryce Stewart - 4 days ago
$750 for a gaming rig, don't thing so. A grand or two for sure!!!
LittleDooKidle
LittleDooKidle - 4 days ago
Poor people? Im still using the FX 8350
Nicholas Ebbing
Nicholas Ebbing - 4 days ago
I still remember Luke, man. I do like the new people though.
Unicorn Diarrhea
Unicorn Diarrhea - 4 days ago
More videos with Anthony! I like that guy.
Farva
Farva - 4 days ago
AMD always
Daniel Pérez
Daniel Pérez - 4 days ago
This was easy more informative and interesting than I was expecting! Thanks for this!
ared18t
ared18t - 4 days ago
Hey it's the Linux guy. :D
The TNTsheep
The TNTsheep - 4 days ago
An important thing to consider for budget gamers is that AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future, while the Intel chipsets can be expected to run away before you can say 'WAIITTTTT!..."
Nathan Gamble
Nathan Gamble - 3 days ago
"AM4 will be compatible with new CPUs for the foreseeable future" Next generation (Zen 2) yes, but beyond that probably not, outside of the low-end.
rx10
rx10 - 4 days ago
2:23 I hope his health is a concern of LMG. He clearly needs help
oddeda
oddeda - 4 days ago
I was thinking AMD would be much better.
To tell you the truth, for lees than 2% performance, I would not OC and stick to Intel with its better stability.
Ri so pia
Ri so pia - 3 days ago
Wait for ryzen 2
MrDeathknight1
MrDeathknight1 - 4 days ago
I've been looking at lap tops for a few games for under 450 and then at 300 pounds which had been intresting refebs the way to go on 300 pound budget but new amd was the way at 450 2500u and on board gpu blasts Intel for game performance from what I can tell on reading on line
James Neave
James Neave - 4 days ago
Also, it kinda shows that CPU is largely irrelevant outside of workstation loads.
James Neave
James Neave - 4 days ago
But...
With the standardisation of 8 cores on the major console platforms, have engines and games been optimized for 8 threads or cores?
In stock case, AMD would have a clear advantage.
Dunix 16
Dunix 16 - 4 days ago
I have a i5 8400 its very good
Chaosbud Gaming
Chaosbud Gaming - 4 days ago
I have the 8400 with a 1060 6gb and have been so far very happy with my performance. Figure by Christmas I'll try to do some upgrades
gr82bAnAUTiger
gr82bAnAUTiger - 4 days ago
Personally I think it's silly to hold yourself to such a tight budget on something like a PC purchase which should last you 3-5 years especially on the CPU side. An 8700k vs 2700x build is a lot more interesting to me, as they should be fairly similar in prices. The 8700k would win in gaming and the 2700x in productivity while the 8700k system would be about $75-$100 more for the processor (if you can get it at $330 which it goes on sale for all the time) and overclocking board, over 3 years that's like $2.50-$3.00 a month difference. I would also advise a SSD at minimum for boot drive with your primary game on it to reduce texture load times and give a much better experience.
TJ Max
TJ Max - 4 days ago
Fun thing. Here in Europe (Serbia) 2060 is around 500$ so this doesn't do us any good lol
Razorize
Razorize - 4 days ago
now stream with the same systems and you will easily be able to stream better with amd than intel
Nikola Miladinovic
Nikola Miladinovic - 4 days ago
You are so miserable with these f*****g commercials, just like every other channel
Beep
Beep - 4 days ago
I also had the budget of 750.
But i have to buy monitor, cpu case and keyboard and mouse in that budget.
Aye Mossum
Aye Mossum - 3 days ago
I took my time and bought everything on sale and/or with rebates. My final cost on my PC (no monitor/keyboard/mouse) Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3000MHz RAM, RX 570 8GB, B450 mobo, Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD, $620. Took me about 4-6 months to build though....
Richardo Otros
Richardo Otros - 4 days ago
What laptop is Antoni using?
Gameplay and Talk
Gameplay and Talk - 4 days ago
This was a fun concept. I was honestly surprised both came out so even, roughly. I'd definitely like to see future videos comparing other price points.
Finchnz
Finchnz - 4 days ago
This was really good, I am still running a 4970k and its good to see where each team is going in regards to a setup that is middle of the road.
Bound4Earth
Bound4Earth - 4 days ago
Rosewill PSU, HAHA.
Excellion123
Excellion123 - 4 days ago
Vega56 would have been a much better choice than rtx 2060
F0110W3R '
F0110W3R ' - 5 days ago
FX processors anyone! Yeah, it's kinda sad I switched to a Ryzen 5 1500x when it came out. I discount on it from Newegg, so it was cheaper than Intel's current offerings. Once I got that I just slapped it into a cheap b350 and I was good to go!
T A
T A - 5 days ago
Linus, please can you include European pricing next time?
Thank you.
Luke Borg
Luke Borg - 5 days ago
because of AMD"s advertising... you can have an athlon 3000 CPU that runs LIKE 3.0GHZ! (in reality it's 1.4ghz).... i hate AMD< always have
Pwnpie
Pwnpie - 5 days ago
for the first time in my life i am ready to make a gaming PC, have a budget of $1500 but its giving me a damn headache trying to figure what to get, everyone i ask have different opinions. oh god
King of Gamers
King of Gamers - 5 days ago
What about a 3000 dollar limit
King of Gamers
King of Gamers - 5 days ago
The i9 9980xe was worth it
King of Gamers
King of Gamers - 5 days ago
I bought a 2000 dollar cpu worth it i9
Vern Haynes
Vern Haynes - 5 days ago
Here is something to think about...Without AMD to keep it honest, how much would an 8400k cost? Competition keeps the tech advancing, keeps prices low, and ensures a constant stream of new/faster tech.
Luda Pecurka
Luda Pecurka - 5 days ago
Soon to be for top of the top end gaming systems ;)
RiftMull ‘
RiftMull ‘ - 5 days ago
anthony picked my motherboard on his first build lol
jodaneidajo
jodaneidajo - 5 days ago
AMD won a Google gaming deal now, stock is soaring
Silverhawk Shayhan
Silverhawk Shayhan - 5 days ago
I would like to see some comparisons between low PC hardware to high end server hardware for media servers, like plex or emby with all the features enabled to how different types of hardware effects performance of the software.
GMBlazey
GMBlazey - 5 days ago
1050ti
i5 3340
8gb ram
£250
maxed anything ive ran
Ri so pia
Ri so pia - 3 days ago
30 fps noob
Zapablast05
Zapablast05 - 5 days ago
Lol AMD for poor people? What a blindsided dolt. I'll take AMD and put the money savings towards a more exciting hobby, like track days.
Carys Kelly
Carys Kelly - 5 days ago
Can you help me build my own pc, please. I don't think you have ever done one with an older girl gamer. I am 11 almost 12, and I want to get into the world of pc gaming!
Victor Ov
Victor Ov - 5 days ago
Would be good to see some productivity and stream benchmarks not just "gaming"/
Simon Verdinek
Simon Verdinek - 4 days ago
Yeah .. sponsored by Intel and nVidia? Very unlikley to see those results here.
Victor Ov
Victor Ov - 5 days ago
Loool AMD is for poor people.
Alparslan Kopuz
Alparslan Kopuz - 5 days ago
İ like the see more of this
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